- Do you wanna tell us a little bit more a story about the creation?
- Well, Joe is my grandson, he's the youngest of my son's kids, and the other two have been painted already so I did him and he-
- And this is the only one who's got into the finals.
- So there you go. Win, win yeah. So then he hasn't teased his brother and sister at all, wrong. He has. But I just thought his face, he could put on a really good face, he can be quite serious and I quite liked his serious face so I did that and I got the shading and it was good. It was a whole production, we kind of enjoyed doing it, yeah. And then it just fell into place easily except for the background, I kept changing the colours. And then we were working out what to call it. We came up with some stupid names but "Triceratops" was best. We stuck with that one.
- Well, I think it's an absolutely fantastic portrait and you should both be very, very proud.
- Thank you. Thank you very much.
- Thank you for coming over today.
- Thank you.
- It was so nice to meet you, Joe. Thank you.
- Thank you.