- Can you just tell us why you chose John and how the portrait came to be?
- John is a very unique character so I really wanted to capture that uniqueness. And every time we meet, he's come up with like multiple schemes and ideas and, you know, very vivid imagination. I wanted to capture his vulnerability and therefore I disrobed him for the painting.
- I'm Caroline's muse and I've met her a few years ago and we've had lots of fun together and she asked to paint my portrait. I sat down and she said, "Could you take your shirt off?" I said, "Yes." She said, "Do you wanna take your trousers off?" I said, "No." And she just did it.
- With the carpet, it's like a garden surrounding the menorah, 'cause John is Jewish. So that signifies his Jewish faith, but also like the flowering garden of all his harebrained ideas.
- Thanks for that. Yeah. But also we've often like had conversations about, you know, that we've both had the opportunity to live sort of two lives in one lifetime. So I called it "Man with Two Lives." And, yeah, the empty chair sort of represents, you know, like the jabbling of a person and you know, the opportunity, you know, to move from one to another type of being. And I think that's something we have in common that we've both talked about and experienced.
